Morning Oud with Sheikh Ehab

Ensar Oud

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#25
Great episode. Good points shared. Invaluable info for new comers to natural fragrances.

Would be super awesome to get master class level videos too for the intermediate level students amongst us ;)
As my teacher says, the milk generally won’t come unless there is a baby screaming for it.... :)

Please ask your questions in the comments section and I will do my best to answer them, if I have the answers. I am, at the end if the day, a student myself. :)
 

Rasoul S

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#26
As my teacher says, the milk generally won’t come unless there is a baby screaming for it.... :)

Please ask your questions in the comments section and I will do my best to answer them, if I have the answers. I am, at the end if the day, a student myself. :)
Nothing specific in mind and no pressing questions at the moment. I just find it awesome when let’s say yourself and Taha or Adam had the dialogues and videos. I learned a lot and thoroughly enjoyed those discussions. Perhaps some of the back and forth between yourself and Kruger would be great if captured candidly on camera. Just two of the biggest oud geeks shooting the shit.

Actually come to think of it I would love to see a bi weekly or monthly oil pick and live reporting or even recorded reporting of how you or adam or Kruger see oil xyz. Or all 3 of you!

Viewers can swipe the same oil, press play and go on the same journey with you. Compare notes and perhaps see nuances they previously missed. Most development is in the first 30 minutes or so anyways (generalizing here) but time lapse can be used to capture the notes perceived by you 2 hours in for example.

Make comparisons and contrasts along the way so those newer to oud can develop the vocabulary and also learn what oils will be to their liking and which not...

Also awesome to hear more behind the scene stories. The people touched you in your journeys. The good the bad the ugly. The logistical nightmares and other difficulties of what it takes to do what you guys do. I know many take it for granted or don’t k ow the hardships. Tell us about distillations gone wrong and how and why. Tell us about the expeditions and off th beaten path adventures....

Just my 2 cents :)
 
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Nothing specific in mind and no pressing questions at the moment. I just find it awesome when let’s say yourself and Taha or Adam had the dialogues and videos. I learned a lot and thoroughly enjoyed those discussions. Perhaps some of the back and forth between yourself and Kruger would be great if captured candidly on camera. Just two of the biggest oud geeks shooting the shit.

Actually come to think of it I would love to see a bi weekly or monthly oil pick and live reporting or even recorded reporting of how you or adam or Kruger see oil xyz. Or all 3 of you!

Viewers can swipe the same oil, press play and go on the same journey with you. Compare notes and perhaps see nuances they previously missed. Most development is in the first 30 minutes or so anyways (generalizing here) but time lapse can be used to capture the notes perceived by you 2 hours in for example.

Make comparisons and contrasts along the way so those newer to oud can develop the vocabulary and also learn what oils will be to their liking and which not...

Just my 2 cents :)
If you're willing to go the whole day though....
Might be worthwhile investing in a Lay-Z-Boy.
 

Simla House

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#29
Viewers can swipe the same oil, press play and go on the same journey with you. Compare notes and perhaps see nuances they previously missed. Most development is in the first 30 minutes or so anyways (generalizing here) but time lapse can be used to capture the notes perceived by you 2 hours in for example.s
Virtual "swipe-a-long" with friends!!
Sign me up.
 
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Alkhadra

Guest
#34
MashaAllah @Ensar Oud , really enjoyed watching! Especially the part at 5:40 when you said "that's the rule" pertaining to the generosity of Oud for guests. I was actually just discussing this yesterday with a friend of mine from Singapore. My bottles of Oud are all mercilessly swiped to guest and friends, without my permission, as they know that my permission is already a given. So I can definitely relate to this beautiful tradition your teachers have.

There is one other thing I wanted to shed some light on. Somewhere midway through the video, you spoke about the Philippines, and how Oud from Tawi Tawi is an extension of Borneo Oud. You even went so far to call it a "Geo-Political trick", which I strongly disagree with.

I'll start by saying that Filipino wood coming from Tawi Tawi and Mindanao have little to do with Borneo, and have more in common with one another than they do with anything I've seen coming out from Borneo Island. The deep umami spiced profile of Tawi Tawi is undeniably an extension of the Mindanao profile (or the other way around).

If you try Agar Auras Mindanao oils, and then went on to try my Adan (Tawi Tawi), you will definitely find the similarities in profile. Adan was distilled in a manner that didn't include any tampering with the aroma.All those who have tried Adan have echoed time and time again that it smells just like Filipino wood, and yet not a single one of them ever made a Borneo connection regarding it's profile. No Blackberries, no blueberries, zilch on narcotic mint. A good way to put it's profile would be "Tarragon infused honey" as @Rasoul S describes it. Apart from that, there's an extreme underlying spiciness that breathes through, along with a dairy component that doesn't translate on any level into Vanilla. It is exactly that Tarragon-Honey-Milky-Creamy profile that makes Oud from Tawi Tawi what it is.

Heck, even from a genetic perspective, The Oud producing species of Tawi Tawi are a diverging branch of Oud, different to what is found on Borneo Island. You got your Cumingiana, your Filaria, which if suggests anything, points towards an Indonesian heritage.

So yeah, no Geo-Political tricks here my friend. Tawi Tawi is as Filipino as it gets! ;)
 

Rasoul S

Well-Known Member
#37
MashaAllah @Ensar Oud , really enjoyed watching! Especially the part at 5:40 when you said "that's the rule" pertaining to the generosity of Oud for guests. I was actually just discussing this yesterday with a friend of mine from Singapore. My bottles of Oud are all mercilessly swiped to guest and friends, without my permission, as they know that my permission is already a given. So I can definitely relate to this beautiful tradition your teachers have.

There is one other thing I wanted to shed some light on. Somewhere midway through the video, you spoke about the Philippines, and how Oud from Tawi Tawi is an extension of Borneo Oud. You even went so far to call it a "Geo-Political trick", which I strongly disagree with.

I'll start by saying that Filipino wood coming from Tawi Tawi and Mindanao have little to do with Borneo, and have more in common with one another than they do with anything I've seen coming out from Borneo Island. The deep umami spiced profile of Tawi Tawi is undeniably an extension of the Mindanao profile (or the other way around).

If you try Agar Auras Mindanao oils, and then went on to try my Adan (Tawi Tawi), you will definitely find the similarities in profile. Adan was distilled in a manner that didn't include any tampering with the aroma.All those who have tried Adan have echoed time and time again that it smells just like Filipino wood, and yet not a single one of them ever made a Borneo connection regarding it's profile. No Blackberries, no blueberries, zilch on narcotic mint. A good way to put it's profile would be "Tarragon infused honey" as @Rasoul S describes it. Apart from that, there's an extreme underlying spiciness that breathes through, along with a dairy component that doesn't translate on any level into Vanilla. It is exactly that Tarragon-Honey-Milky-Creamy profile that makes Oud from Tawi Tawi what it is.

Heck, even from a genetic perspective, The Oud producing species of Tawi Tawi are a diverging branch of Oud, different to what is found on Borneo Island. You got your Cumingiana, your Filaria, which if suggests anything, points towards an Indonesian heritage.

So yeah, no Geo-Political tricks here my friend. Tawi Tawi is as Filipino as it gets! ;)
For what is worth, the wood and oil I have from both mindenao and tawi and Sulaweisi for that matter all share more in common than with any Borneo oil or wood I have tried. From sabah, tarakan, central Kalimantan, Sarawak, malinau or Brunei... but then again I have t tried all of Borneo like baram, barat...
Borneo is a puzzle. So many different profiles in it.

BUT I do have to say that mindenao is imho far more elegant and ethereal compared to tawi and Sulawesi. Sample size is far to small to be definitive about this. Just based on what I have tried.
 

Rasoul S

Well-Known Member
#38
Great episode. Hopefully we get to see Kruger and adam join the talks as well. And how about that live or time lapsed our swipe idea? Let’s get going on that.

Back to the episode. Indeed, There are so many reasons as to why I love oud and I expose my loved ones friends and even 4 year old boy to it.

Here are some reasons, most are an echoe of what is already been said/shared:

Social aspect.
playing blind swipe games to use deduction and exercising the mind to get to the “truth” and hence why I love oils that speak of their origin but also have that extra signature or curve ball. The other social aspect is talking about perceived notes of same oil and wood with likeminded people and see what they see. Have a dimension get unlocked. The camaraderie that comes with it...

Pause aspect.
b/c great agarwood and oud demands your attention. The horizontal complexity. The vertical complexity. You cannnot be anywhere but present moment when you have kinam rouge on, nashila and so many others.

The calming aspect.
yet fully present, aware and sober. Oud helps my meditetion and yoga practice. I am grounded and time and “doing” start to get weaker and lose their hold on me.

The dream/sleep effect.
The imagery and tranporterive qualities of oud really helps with daydreaming and the calm and serenity it induces helps with slowing down and even taking a break and going for a nap. We are bombarded by life in digital age. Not doing is the best doing.
 
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