Ensar Oud in commercial perfume??

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  1. SydnorIII

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    I have a very large collection of cologne/EDP/EDT that I have not touched since I found artisanal Oud (and have considered trashing), but this House, at face value, seems different and interesting. Please do report back with your impressions @SydnorIII
     
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    How long since you have used the perfumes? I find myself in a similar situation, but it has only been a couple of months. I keep thinking I will use them but keep reaching for the Oud. I know I will never part with certain bottles but have been thinking about a buy-more-Oud sale!
     
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    @Kswer It has been a year since I bought Sultan Rose Attar. There was no turning back after that. All I think about now is artisanal Oud and attars. Nothing else is satisfying anymore. Period. They say old habits die hard - this one I quit cold turkey and never looked back.
     
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    I will admit that my taste has been skewed by natural Ouds and Attars. However, I don’t think as a student of fragrance I can totally abandon my passion for alcohol based Perfumery/synthetics altogether. After all, look at the amazing things brother Adam has done with Areej le Dore!
     
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    I am interested too, only Slumberhouse and Areej le dore are able to catch my attention those days.
     
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    I am interested too, only Slumberhouse and Areej le dore are able to catch my attention those days.
     
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    I've only been with Oud for a couple of months, almost exclusively, but I have perfumes with alcohol in a total of 400, I do not think I use them in full, since lately I almost always use Oud, but I also like Slumberhouse and Areej Le Dore
     
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    I ordered the sample set of Fort and Manle as well, heard good things and even better now that we found out that they use REAL oud. Cant wait!
     
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    I hope you tell us that such are those samples and if any one stands out especially
     
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    In regards to other quality perfumes, the (mostly/all) natural perfumery scene in the US is getting pretty big...House of Matriarch, DSH Perfumes, Thorn & Bloom, Olympic Orchids, Slumberhouse, etc. Lots to check out!
     
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    This may not be related to the use of synthetics in perfumery directly, but I still think its something I should share because it does bear some relevance.

    Aside from what we put on our skin, we are exposed to so much other nastiness too, from the air we breathe to the food we consume. Applying phthalates to our bodies sure doesn't help either! Sadly, sometimes certain things simply can't be avoided.

    One thing which I think everyone could benefit from is mega-dosing liposamal Vitamic C.
    The typical absorption rate of Vitamin C is only about 10%. So from a 1,000mg tablet, at best you're only absorbing about 100mg. Liposomal Vitamin C can have an absorption rate of 90+%!!!
    Intravenous Vitamin C (i.e. drips) is sometimes used in hospitals for patients in critical condition. From what I've read, the liposomal form is even better than IV.
    And as for its efficacy..... ooooooh boy, don't even ask. :D

    Crash course: Vitamin C fixes stuff in the body. The typical issue is extremely poor absorption when taken orally in the form of ascorbic acid (conventional tablets).
    But when pure Vitamin C is nano-encapsulated in liposomes, you've essentially put it in a vehicle that is the same "stuff" that the cells in our body are made of. So the liposomally encapsulated substance (Vitamin C in this case) is shuttled straight to the cells of your body where its needed, while avoiding the common and biggest issue with typical oral consumption (Vitamin C pills): poor absorption.

    I can't even begin to tell you how good it is for you. If you've met me in person, I know you'd be a believer. My body has taken mighty thrashings from all sorts of things you can't even imagine. And yet, any time anything happens my recovery is remarkable. I mean absolutely remarkable. I mean, dude-what-the-heck-why-aren't-you-in-the-hospital remarkable. I haven't been sick in I dunno maybe 2 years or so, I forget. I recover from stuff in the snap of a finger. Even physical injuries. Amazingly enough, usually no scars either, even from injuries one would expect would leave a person with permanent scars and deformities. @m.arif and @kesiro, you know what I'm talking about.
    I won't get into the details, but the most recent one is an incident that occurred on November 28. One I can never forget. I won't get into the details, but what I can tell you is that m.arif just couldn't stop staring at me, when he saw me just a couple weeks apart.

    Back to the liposomal Vitamin C. Its just SO good, and I can vouch for its efficacy first-hand, that I simply have to share it with everyone.
    I can even take up to 25,000mg a day (considered therapeutic mega dose, when you have a specific ailment which you want to target) without even getting an upset stomach. And 9,000-10,000mg a day on maintenance. On the other hand, a fraction of that in the form of conventional tablets will cause severe diarrhea, and even worse it hardly gets absorbed remember.

    Just consider this:
    5,000mg in tablet form: at 10% absorption, you're only actually getting 500mg. The rest you pass through Number 1, and don't even get me started on Number 2 because of what unabsorbed excess Vitamin C does. :p
    25,000mg in liposomal form: at 90% absorption, you're getting 22,500mg.

    Sure, there's no "magic pill" that cures every ailment in the world, but if there's one thing that comes close then my first-hand experience suggests its liposomal Vitamin C. I've heard of liposomal Glutathione as well, I don't know if maybe that would be even better (it is the mother of all "fixers" after all, but once again terrible absorption when taken orally as conventional capsules) but I haven't tried it so I can't comment on it. I do have some Glutathione at home so maybe I'll try making a liposomal batch with it.
    But for now, I can vouch for Vitamin C first-hand. From physical/external to disease/internal stuff I can vouch for it, for too many things to count.

    The reason why I'm mentioning it here is because Vitamin C fixes stuff when its mega dosed. With all the junk we are exposed to in this day and age, whether we can help it or not, our bodies need some serious fixing.

    Now if only Vitamin C could miraculously regenerate worn out corneas... :D
     
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    I've lost two 1st degree relatives to cancer, which is a major risk factor for me that has made me much more conscious of what I put in and on my structure. Simple research into many synthetic aroma-chemicals shows possible link to cancer and other illnesses. I don't have to boycott synthetics as they have boycotted me. Some years ago, out of nowhere, I began to get acute migraine headaches from the perfumes I wore. Many people don't have any negative symptoms from wearing synthetic perfumes; the biggest take away from your words should be that the early stages of liver disease and cancer are most often asymptomatic as well. Something to think about.#fuckcancer
     
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    Dose is everything, dose determines if something is harmless or will kill you. Even water... So, I don't agree that all synthetics are by nature harmful, but I do think that much is not known and you're probably safer avoiding exposing yourself to molecules that don't exist in nature, or excesses of anything. Testing of substances is often done to find toxic limits and lab animals are subjected to doses that people will never be exposed to. These types of experiments should be taken with a grain of salt. Even seemingly innocuous substances like citrus oils are toxic in high concentrations. IME nothing in life is so clear-cut...
     
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    After talking about dosing this is an interesting subject... One of the largest proponents of Vit C, Linus Pauling, who also won 2 Nobel Prizes, died of cancer after claiming it's basically not possible (Vit C would prevent cancer). His wife also died of cancer.

    More recent studies suggest Dr Pauling may have been right about some of his beliefs... but what he might have got wrong is the dose, maybe he was right but just overdosed or didn't give his body a break from the Vit C?

    I think this may be the case as there is literally no possible way for us to consume that much Vit C through naturally occurring Vit C sources like citrus fruits. This suggests to me that Lipo Vit C might be a good medicine for some things but just like any medicine it can easily be overdone. Just something to consider. I think everyone here might have a tendency to go overboard in some ways... :)
     
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    Now that we are on the subject of extreme nutrition...

    Mankind evolved in the area where the barren great rift valley is now. In that geological and climatological period who can only guess at the verdant and nutrient rich bounty we had to feast on? Certainly lots of berries, roots and leaves heaving with phytochemicals.

    One thing is sure though, there was no sugarcane or sugarbeet there. When one speaks of cancer one must also mention glucose as well as the usual suspects of xenochemical hormone disruptors.

    Taha, Linus Pauling FTW certainly but C is not the only fruit. For example, look into Methylcobalamin, the neurologically active form of B12. I do think it is wise to take proportional amounts of vitamins in relation with the others, so with that sexy C take a broad spectrum of the rest.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
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    Wearing Harem Rose by Fort and Manle. It’s a Damscena Rose soliflore. I’d rather swipe some Ruh Gulab, but it’s not bad.
     
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    Sunlight can cause cancer, mustard oil can cause cancer, oestrogen can cause cancer. Natural substances have an equal capability of causing allergies and N no of serious diseases. Science is ahead of tradition on any given day.
     
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    Actually, it trails it by at least four thousand years… Anytime science gets anything 'right' it seems to refute and correct itself on whatever it maintained that went against tradition. Remember the 'low-fat', heart-healthy vegetable oil alternatives to butter and ghee it was spoon-feeding us for the better part of the twentieth century? Some people are still eating canola oil because that's what 'science' had told them was rich in omega 3's and a 'friend of the heart'. Only a year or two ago, the American Heart Association changed its stance on cholesterol and its impact on heart disease. In fact, this information is so new, most people are still terrified of the word 'cholesterol' and pumping toxic vegetable oils – yep, canola, corn, soya, sunflower seed, etc – instead of the 'traditional' fats we'd been eating for millennia from pastured animals: butter, ghee, tallow, and organ meats.

    It took 'science' a few thousand years to realize that the bacteria in your gut makes up the better part of your immune system; hence the flood of 'probiotic' supplements and the 'gut healthy' alternatives we're now seeing everywhere. 'Tradition' had been feeding you lassi, kimchi, kefir, sauerkraut, tempeh, tofu, miso, etc. for millennia.

    People have been healing with essential oils since the beginning of time. Frankincense, myrrh, oud, sandalwood, camphor, civet, musk, etc are all mentioned in the prophetic literature of the world's great religions. It is common knowledge in China that if you have a headache, you apply some camphor oil on your temples and rub your pressure points. Your 'science' on the other hand, gives out aspirin which can be fatal to children; paracetamol which is toxic to the liver, and ibuprofen which can tear your stomach.

    There is a Revolution upon us, and neither big bucks nor 'science' can do anything about it, I'm afraid. People are becoming aware of what is good for them and their world and what isn't. They now know what GMOs do to human health. Pesticides (yep, 'science'-backed Monsanto!!!), electromagnetic fields, antibiotics, dirty electricity, proton pump inhibitors, fluoride – and the biggest hoax of all: avoiding sunlight. Vitamin D deficiency is a far, FAR more potent cause of cancer than UV light.
     
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    I agree with your emotion but sadly brother you oversimplied Science this time. Cholesterol is an important aspect of food - its overconsumption is NOT. It is essential to formation of anabolic hormones. Vit D will only form between 8 to 10 am with a 15min exposure. Probiotics should be used not as a supplement but as medicine in most cases. Certain strains cannot be found in food. Science evolves. It proposes and refutes. So there's always study and research going on. Tradition is stubborn. To establish the fact that lack of vitamins can cause certain cancer to its treatment and to its follow up you need Science. Then Genetics. Your genetic makeup can cause a spectrum of deadly diseases. Its identification, treatment and even prevention only Science can do. Internet, smartphones etc. But as a spiritual being and also as a physician I always advocate prevention over cure infact the whole subject of PSM is based over it. And it is only Mr Park s efforts that you see health organisations all over the world. Man can avoid synthetics all he want. If he wants. Rest of these non-scientific, American media generated health articles and Scientific Validations are not globally applicable. Things in Europe and elsewhere are much more non-glamorous. People are not so obssessed with plastic surgery, their anti ageing creams and multivitamins. Dont take that as health standard protocol. Media can be very influential today. Btw, the Liver and Kidneys are capable of filtering out most things. Most. Aspirin is no longer a pill for basic headache since I dont know how many decades. Again proved harmful by science. Cancer is a very, very, very, very complex and diverse subject. A million things at work here. Not easy to understand for non-medicos. A new trend has started against Vaccines LOL. I mean man can drink all the water stored in copper jugs all he wants but he will evetually land up with a serious Liver condition. The Ancient Indian text on Medicine is the most prolific achievement of its time. It predates many human societies too. Organised and scientific writing just like Hindi scriptures. That is very much an evidence to how science evolved from traditional medicine to gene therapy. Same scientific minds at work. But media and lobbying show it otherwise because its part of deliberate business. Many people go these quacks or half doctors for the tratement of complex disorders even brainwashed young men and women who land up our examination tables with advanced Cancer where it has left the original organ and reached a second site like the brain or lungs. Little children too who have never used perfume etc. You think perfume synthetics are not subject to beta experimentation ? Simply pick up chemicals and make perfume ? What about Sencha tea from Japan ? I agree with your idea of living a disciplined life but the marketing industry is way more powerful than men of science. Don't confuse the two. There is a lobby in every field same goes for allopathy but that is another aspect. Cheers.
     
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