Has anyone tried Ensar's Tigerlust perfume

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    For those of you lucky enough to have the cash to buy this scent please advise, should I buy a bottle?

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    Hi there; Tigerlust is available as 9.5 ml tester. This way you have plenty of a perfume tzo try before making the decision if you really want / need a full bottle. I bought the EO No.1 and 2 this way. 9,5 ml is really A LOT of perfume...lasts several weeks, even when you apply it daily.
     
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    To answer the question in the title of this post, Yes, I have tried it, no surprise there =)

    I'd second @Thomas S. on that, always good to Test a composition for yourself first, and to answer a straight yes or no on whether to buy a bottle would depend on other things as well, and the first question that came to mind is: Have you experienced EO No 1 and No 2?

    You're here, so I know you appreciate oud and that says a lot, but there still remains a question of your preferences in terms of scent profiles, and what you enjoy. So how do you like EO No 1 and No 2 can better help us answer how you'd like TIGERLUST.
     
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    Hello Adam

    Yes, you have sold me a tester of number 1 which I apologise but I'm not a big fan of.

    I dislike the dry down and feel there is something grizzly under the surface. I'm thinking this may be Oak Moss

    I love your Iris Noir and adore Thai Tabac (you'll probably guess who I am now) and I love Russian Adam Malik D' Taif scent.

    Unfortunately I've not tried number 2 but like Blue Kalabar.

    Many thanks
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    Hi @ShimonofBrixton , no need to apologize you're entitled to your opinion =)

    The raw grizzly aspect of the dry-down and its bold stance appeals to many lovers of the Leather genre, imparting a vintage 'old world' feel to the fragrance, as many have observed, and appreciated; which is in part what makes it so regal.

    Iris Noir and Thai Tabac are both brighter profiles, brighter than EO No 1. Just yesterday however the following was said about TIGERLUST by a client in the US:

    "If I was going to describe it in one sentence....Tropical flowers wrapped up in a cashmere blanket of oud and musk. Smooth, balanced, and blended to perfection." Scott, USA

    Those tropical flowers he's referring to is that ooozing osmanthus eluded to in the description, which is to my perception the key ingredient within Iris Noir. Although rather than deriving the dry-down from a root aromatic as in Iris Noir, TIGERLUST has musk rounding it off.

    As for Malik d'Taif, if that's a profile you enjoy definitely put Sultan Rose Attar on your list as the classic combination has never been better.

    All and all TIGERLUST is nowhere near as bright as Blue Kalbar or as floral as Thai Tabac's violet, for comparisons sake, think of the tone of Iris Noir, but heighten the nuances and complexity 3 fold.

    Given that TIGERLUST is even more complex and sophisticated than EO No 1 and also has that Regal old worth tone both bold and uncompromising, my suggestion to you considering your feelings on EO No 1 is to put the $149 towards Sultan Rose Attar, or another bottle of Blue Kalbar (while it's around.)
     
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    Looking at TIGERLUST as an independent fragrance and as a unique composition, it's almost too rich.

    There's a limit which our senses can perceive at once, and I think TIGERLUST surpasses it.

    It's the kind of fragrance that I'll still be picking out new facets from it a year from now. And I'll need a full year to really experience all that is packed into it.

    It's very complex, powerful and sophisticated and definitely has elements of the unmistakable Ensar Oud signature notes.

    I also believe the overall profile will be dynamic because of the quality of the aromatics within and that the differences it'll exude from month to month and season to season will make it quite an experience.

    This is a serious fragrance that makes a formidable signature scent.
     
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    I will forever be happy that Ensar offers testers. Buying a tester saved me from buying a full bottle of Crime & Punishment which just fails to excite me. It seems to me as if Ensar just mixed whatever leftovers he had from previous attars.

     
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    @Thomas S. well that's exactly why the Testers are there, so you can feel out the composition before pursuing a full bottle, if you appreciate the compositions, and with natural aromatics it takes more than a few wears to really experience the profile.

    But considering the complete 180 Crime & Punishment is from the other compositions I'm stymied as to how you'd think it's a blend of 'leftovers.'

    You're completely entitled to your opinion and constructive criticism is welcome, however I find such a statement uninformative and quite unseemly.

    It goes to show that from an outside perspective no matter how much effort and countless hours are spent on compositions, and no matter how many drafts are edited and reworked, in the end it can go completely underappreciated, unnoticed, or even cast aside as 'leftovers.'

    It takes a lot of heart and spirit to put your works out there to be judged, so when providing feedback it's best to do so tastefully and with tact.

    Thank you to everyone for all the love, support, appreciation and feedback, it's all inspiration and fuel to continue the journey.
     
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    @Adam Coburn: Please enlighten me - how is C&P a "180" from previous perfumes, which were musk and sandal, rose, jasmine and then some supporting essential oils?
    Apart from a dose of Blue Lotus, I honestly do not smell much that differs from EO No.1, No.2 and Tigerlust. All of these are variations of the same theme. You might think of them as cousins, or grandparents and grandchildren...Naturally so, since the base is oud, sandal and musk (in EO No. 1, sandal and civet). And they all have the supporting florals, jasmine, rose - and then some.
    Believe me, I would love to see that Ensar creates a perfume that justifies the description "complete 180 from the other compositions ".

    In German, we have the term "verschlimmbessern". It means making something worse by trying to improve it.
    I have myself tried to make my own composition using oils I bought from Ensar and others. I tried to come with my personal perfume, just for my personal use.
    And I know how easily that what is to become a really nice perfume can be ruined by adding only a few drops of this or that ingredient. I know because I "verschlimmbessert" my own creation.
    And that was what I thought after the first three or four wears of C&P: that Ensar tried to come up with something so unique he - inadvertently - "verschlimmbesssert" it in the process.
    I surely see he tried his best. But the end result is less than what he envisioned (or so I believe).
     
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    Hey @Thomas S.

    I appreciate the above insights, much more informative and constructive, thanks for that.

    As for how it's a 180, well for me EO No 1, No 2 and Tigerlust are all very heavily contemplative, dark and sophisticated profiles, the musk and spices dominate and personally I hardly even notice any florals, whereas Crime & Punishment I find light and jovial and the creamy blue-raspberry profile very bright and floral. I find it perfectly suited to spring and to wear in daytime whereas the others I'd relegate to Autumn, Winter and night for the most part, so to me they're opposites: 180 degrees from one another.

    They may have some overlapping ingredients however their compositions are completely different and every artist has their signature and their favorite ingredients to use, which in Ensar's case happens to be copious amounts of real Siberian musk granules, ambergris and in house artisanal oud, and I think that's where most people observe the 'similarities.'

    It's interesting because the primary chords experience in Ensar's compositions have now been labeled as 'EO No 1' or 'EO No 2' in the minds of those who experienced that scent for the first time.

    So does Crime & Punishment have EO No 2 in the drydown? No, but it does have tons of Musk. . .

    Ensar also mentioned the concept of "verschlimmbessert" in his release of the latest attars, although it takes a lot more words in English to express the concept :), but for some, less is definitely more and simplicity is beauty, so it seems you're on the same page there.

    But if Crime & Punishment has been verschlimmbessert-ed to you, maybe it's time to go "back to the basics" which is the theme of the latest attars.
     
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    @Adam Coburn:
    Oh, so the 180 is in how it makes you feel? Good to know.

    As for the concept of verschlimmberssert mentioned by Ensar - can you provide me with the exact paragraph? I went through the decriptions of the new attars and couldn´t find it.
     
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    It was in the "Back to Basics" email Ensar sent out on the 8th.

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    My experience of the profile and the notes most dominant to me are linked to how I feel, so yes, you could say that.

    So from my understanding of what you'd said, you'd like to see an Ensar Oud compositions using other than ambergris, Siberian Musk, and vintage sandalwood as the foundation a Parfum? Any particular direction you would like to see Ensar Oud pursue?

    Obviously there are no guarantees as Ensar Oud as an artist has his own direction and inspirations, however I personally enjoy hearing from you, and everyone as to what new things they'd like to experience now that Ensar Oud has raised the standard and set the bar for musk and ambergris compositions.

    Any thoughts?
     
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    If reading your "Verschlimmbesssert" was the only thing I gained from making Crime and Punishment, it was worth it. :)
     
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