I received a couple of DMs with folks asking me which oils i pick up yellow, green or black kyara note on low low low heat in and I figured a forum response may be best as i believe this is not as clear-cut and worthy of a discussion.
oils with some suggestions of it
ASO ceen chinese
AA kanzen cambodi
oils built around this note but have other stuff going on:
ASO malek ceeni chinese
AA kiyosumi vietnamese
oils that are pretty much focused entirely on this note:
AA VSK vietnamese
IO FHI (yellow and green) Hong kong
AA wanmei (black, touch green) vietnamese
AA kenmei(green) vietnamese
i may have left some behind. was going off memory.
note: not one Ensar oud in the list! how? why? to my nose no ensar kinam/kyara oils really goes about making its sole purpose to just capture this note in the oleoresin. ensar has said many times he doesn't do minimalism and capturing scent of wood on low heat to oil in his view doesn't make sense. oil should be far greater than the scent of the wood and in a way of alchemy should bring to life new and never before seen aromas. i personally value both arguments that taha has for his gen 3 and ensars. i in fact want both and would be a sad world to wake up to one day and see either philosophy and its oils are a thing of the past.
I see ensar kinam/kyara oils to be more than just zooming in on the japanese shin kyara, green,yellow/black oil kyara note on low heat. i see them built as grand symphonies where this note is part of many others. i see them as more Chinese origin kinam (hainan, HK) or red kinam of vietnam and cambodia. i know i know. kinam kyara should be interchangeable. but i just dont see it that way.
Instead of the focus on the mint/vanilla/cream note of green oil, vanilla condensed milk of black oil or the more floral perfumed cooling yellow oil, ensar's kinam/kyara oils are more medicinal and focused on the bitter mind buzz qualities of kinam. the smoke of its incense or the wood on medium+ heat. nha trang ltd, kyara ltd, hainan 05 and countless others are distinctly kinamic and not only based on the nose confirming, but the mind too, yet they dont really go about capturing the kyara note on low yeat. they are more like a great kyara incense like baieido kokoh or translucent path of shoyeido, or the great kyara enju by seijudo. at least the first and third incense are documented to be about capturing the green oil kyara note, but this is very different note than the wood on low low low heat. this is more like kyarazen's own creation of strictly green oil kyara and charcoal powder. the super thin micron thin incense he released earlier. the dragon smoke note...
lets discuss and share
oils with some suggestions of it
ASO ceen chinese
AA kanzen cambodi
oils built around this note but have other stuff going on:
ASO malek ceeni chinese
AA kiyosumi vietnamese
oils that are pretty much focused entirely on this note:
AA VSK vietnamese
IO FHI (yellow and green) Hong kong
AA wanmei (black, touch green) vietnamese
AA kenmei(green) vietnamese
i may have left some behind. was going off memory.
note: not one Ensar oud in the list! how? why? to my nose no ensar kinam/kyara oils really goes about making its sole purpose to just capture this note in the oleoresin. ensar has said many times he doesn't do minimalism and capturing scent of wood on low heat to oil in his view doesn't make sense. oil should be far greater than the scent of the wood and in a way of alchemy should bring to life new and never before seen aromas. i personally value both arguments that taha has for his gen 3 and ensars. i in fact want both and would be a sad world to wake up to one day and see either philosophy and its oils are a thing of the past.
I see ensar kinam/kyara oils to be more than just zooming in on the japanese shin kyara, green,yellow/black oil kyara note on low heat. i see them built as grand symphonies where this note is part of many others. i see them as more Chinese origin kinam (hainan, HK) or red kinam of vietnam and cambodia. i know i know. kinam kyara should be interchangeable. but i just dont see it that way.
Instead of the focus on the mint/vanilla/cream note of green oil, vanilla condensed milk of black oil or the more floral perfumed cooling yellow oil, ensar's kinam/kyara oils are more medicinal and focused on the bitter mind buzz qualities of kinam. the smoke of its incense or the wood on medium+ heat. nha trang ltd, kyara ltd, hainan 05 and countless others are distinctly kinamic and not only based on the nose confirming, but the mind too, yet they dont really go about capturing the kyara note on low yeat. they are more like a great kyara incense like baieido kokoh or translucent path of shoyeido, or the great kyara enju by seijudo. at least the first and third incense are documented to be about capturing the green oil kyara note, but this is very different note than the wood on low low low heat. this is more like kyarazen's own creation of strictly green oil kyara and charcoal powder. the super thin micron thin incense he released earlier. the dragon smoke note...
lets discuss and share