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ive got them both.
Oud Yaqoub, some sweetness, apricot, fresh, clean, floral/fruity, honestly still figuring it out. i like it better than the crassna cha wich to me is like walking into a green wet dank cave made of mint.
i keep triing the organic oils but they do not agree with me. they seem to have a metalic note that 'sings' when i smell it. i keep thinking 'tin' or 'tinny' when i catch the note. im sure with some age they will transform some.
Kalbar Koh. starts off with a wet mustyness with a bit of mint and cola. not to sweet, mint disapears first then you get an ambergris like earthy smell and has an amazing rubbed wood dry down. if you like the earthy smell of ambergris you will love this oil.
Oud Yaqoub, some sweetness, apricot, fresh, clean, floral/fruity, honestly still figuring it out. i like it better than the crassna cha wich to me is like walking into a green wet dank cave made of mint.
i keep triing the organic oils but they do not agree with me. they seem to have a metalic note that 'sings' when i smell it. i keep thinking 'tin' or 'tinny' when i catch the note. im sure with some age they will transform some.
Kalbar Koh. starts off with a wet mustyness with a bit of mint and cola. not to sweet, mint disapears first then you get an ambergris like earthy smell and has an amazing rubbed wood dry down. if you like the earthy smell of ambergris you will love this oil.
i havent had the pleasure of triing the yusha. i did get a sample of the chinese exclusive and thought i would hate it because of the barn but i absolutly love it. its barn w/o anything fecal. it transforms me back to utah and the sheep farm we lived next to. the sweet grass/hay notes really get to me and the rubbed wood drydown is beautiful.
Thanks, alaskan, for the details onm both oils.
I think one needs to be aware that the Yaqoub was distilled from a tree of an estimated age of 40 years. On the Crassna Cha, we do not know exactly how old the tree was. I believe that the age of the tree (i.e. the time the tree had to develop aromatic resin) is crucial to the overall quality of the Oud extracted therefrom. The aging process can only refine and transmute the notes that are in the Oud, initially.
I think one needs to be aware that the Yaqoub was distilled from a tree of an estimated age of 40 years. On the Crassna Cha, we do not know exactly how old the tree was. I believe that the age of the tree (i.e. the time the tree had to develop aromatic resin) is crucial to the overall quality of the Oud extracted therefrom. The aging process can only refine and transmute the notes that are in the Oud, initially.
has anyone here had any dealings with arabianoud.com? looks like a nice website but it doesnt allow you to view any oil discriptions without registering yet, when i hit the register box it says i dont have access to that page. left an email and hoping for a reply.
as for the metalic note i bought some sandalwood oil with a metal note that after aging for 2 years seems to have completely disapeared. im hoping its the same with oud and it should be as its a stronger odor.
as for the metalic note i bought some sandalwood oil with a metal note that after aging for 2 years seems to have completely disapeared. im hoping its the same with oud and it should be as its a stronger odor.
thanks for the tip. btw i was wrong about the ksss, its at oudimentary. ill be placing an order there to try all thier wild ouds right after i get my bottle of oud sultani,woohoo!
the kablar kor has been growing on me and even though im not completely into the wetness, it has enough complexity to satisfy my needs. i will say its neat to have oud oil and, some chips its made from, to burn. i can really tell where the oil came from. the rubbed wood drydown is so sweet and delicious it is not to be missed!
the kablar kor has been growing on me and even though im not completely into the wetness, it has enough complexity to satisfy my needs. i will say its neat to have oud oil and, some chips its made from, to burn. i can really tell where the oil came from. the rubbed wood drydown is so sweet and delicious it is not to be missed!
Greetings
I just read what you mentioned about the organic Ouds having some sort of metallic note compared to wild and I have to respectfully disagree. I've tried many various wild Ouds as well as some of the organic Ouds in question. While some of the organic scent profiles may not be to my taste (what Ouds I define as "good" is entirely subjective), there are those I have tried such as the Crassna Cha, Encen's d'Angkor and others which give me the same special feeling the wild Ouds provide me with. I don't think its appropriate to make a statement which attaches a negative perception to the organic Ouds, some of which are among my absolute favorites. It's inaccurate to think that something such as price, or the materials/methods used can solely determine how "good" a Oud really is. Everyone picks up different notes and experiences something different whenever they smell a particular Oud organic or wild. Therefore, if you have a certain preference of what you like its understandable, but to say ALL organic Ouds give off a certain smell which I don't feel present is just not something I agree with whatsoever.
P.S. I plan on purchasing Oud Yusuf in the not too distant future and I hope it lives up to my expectations
I just read what you mentioned about the organic Ouds having some sort of metallic note compared to wild and I have to respectfully disagree. I've tried many various wild Ouds as well as some of the organic Ouds in question. While some of the organic scent profiles may not be to my taste (what Ouds I define as "good" is entirely subjective), there are those I have tried such as the Crassna Cha, Encen's d'Angkor and others which give me the same special feeling the wild Ouds provide me with. I don't think its appropriate to make a statement which attaches a negative perception to the organic Ouds, some of which are among my absolute favorites. It's inaccurate to think that something such as price, or the materials/methods used can solely determine how "good" a Oud really is. Everyone picks up different notes and experiences something different whenever they smell a particular Oud organic or wild. Therefore, if you have a certain preference of what you like its understandable, but to say ALL organic Ouds give off a certain smell which I don't feel present is just not something I agree with whatsoever.
P.S. I plan on purchasing Oud Yusuf in the not too distant future and I hope it lives up to my expectations
Greetings
I just read what you mentioned about the organic Ouds having some sort of metallic note compared to wild and I have to respectfully disagree. I've tried many various wild Ouds as well as some of the organic Ouds in question. While some of the organic scent profiles may not be to my taste (what Ouds I define as "good" is entirely subjective), there are those I have tried such as the Crassna Cha, Encen's d'Angkor and others which give me the same special feeling the wild Ouds provide me with. I don't think its appropriate to make a statement which attaches a negative perception to the organic Ouds, some of which are among my absolute favorites. It's inaccurate to think that something such as price, or the materials/methods used can solely determine how "good" a Oud really is. Everyone picks up different notes and experiences something different whenever they smell a particular Oud organic or wild. Therefore, if you have a certain preference of what you like its understandable, but to say ALL organic Ouds give off a certain smell which I don't feel present is just not something I agree with whatsoever.
P.S. I plan on purchasing Oud Yusuf in the not too distant future and I hope it lives up to my expectations
I just read what you mentioned about the organic Ouds having some sort of metallic note compared to wild and I have to respectfully disagree. I've tried many various wild Ouds as well as some of the organic Ouds in question. While some of the organic scent profiles may not be to my taste (what Ouds I define as "good" is entirely subjective), there are those I have tried such as the Crassna Cha, Encen's d'Angkor and others which give me the same special feeling the wild Ouds provide me with. I don't think its appropriate to make a statement which attaches a negative perception to the organic Ouds, some of which are among my absolute favorites. It's inaccurate to think that something such as price, or the materials/methods used can solely determine how "good" a Oud really is. Everyone picks up different notes and experiences something different whenever they smell a particular Oud organic or wild. Therefore, if you have a certain preference of what you like its understandable, but to say ALL organic Ouds give off a certain smell which I don't feel present is just not something I agree with whatsoever.
P.S. I plan on purchasing Oud Yusuf in the not too distant future and I hope it lives up to my expectations
i hereby stand by my nose and the 5+ years ive been making perfume. i smell metallic in every organic oil i have. thats not to say it wont go away someday like the metallic note in my sandalwood oil did or, that there are some organic oils out there without the metallic note. the metallic note in the Encen's d'Angkor was the hardest to detect and my fav of the organics.
im glad you dont agree with me as, i love this thing called free will. how sad would this world be if we all liked the same things. however i will not stand by and have your interpretation of my statement being made to look like im bad mouthing all organic oils. you completely missed the point. please think before you post!
It's unfortunate that you feel I am trying to start an argument as this was not my intent. I respect your opinion. I was merely trying to state how I happen to enjoy certain organic Ouds just as much as wild. I disagree with the statement that organic ouds have this so called metallic note in them and felt I should respond to your and others comments so people don't perceive all organic Ouds the wrong way. There are certain cultivated Ouds that are of lesser quality. However, I have smelled some organics I like just as much as wild. You shouldn't feel the need to defend yourself since like I said everyone here has their own personal taste. I was just voicing my opinion and I didn't think it would be an issue.
I didn't intend to purposefully single you out by quoting a statement you made. I was more responding in a general way to what you and others said.
I didn't intend to purposefully single you out by quoting a statement you made. I was more responding in a general way to what you and others said.
thanks for clarifing. to me, you made it seem like i was telling everyone to avoid the organics, wich wasnt my intent. i really struggled with leaving the metallic comment in the first place but, i really cant fault myself for being truthful.
i really do wish i could be as taken in by the organics, like you, but ive still got some sampling to do to find them.
i really do wish i could be as taken in by the organics, like you, but ive still got some sampling to do to find them.
Alaskan, I’ve tried the organic ouds from Ensar you mention and I’ve sampled a bunch of other cultivated ouds as well. I also pick up a metallic note in some of them. But in others, it’s completely absent.
I don’t think this note has to do with the ouds being from cultivated trees. For all I know, the wild ones I’ve tried might have had a similar note when they were first made. Based on my exposure to ouds of different ages, I think maturity is arguably the key factor.
For example, in Oud Dhul Kifl, Oud Yusha, Assam Organic, to name a few, I don’t smell that ‘still’ note at all, and like you said, you found it less detectable in Encens d’Angkor (which I've tried again but can't find it). Crassna Cha is still a pretty fresh distillation, which might be why you get that note (I only occasionally pick it up). I’m sure it'll disappear over time.
I guess there are many factors, but so far most of Ensar’s organics have actually not had that note. Have you tried Oud Yusuf? It’s also a fairly fresh distillation, but I don’t find any metallic/still notes in it at all. Samples I’ve tried from distillers directly have had the note more pronounced, and it’s probably because they normally send me samples of new distillations.
I don’t think this note has to do with the ouds being from cultivated trees. For all I know, the wild ones I’ve tried might have had a similar note when they were first made. Based on my exposure to ouds of different ages, I think maturity is arguably the key factor.
For example, in Oud Dhul Kifl, Oud Yusha, Assam Organic, to name a few, I don’t smell that ‘still’ note at all, and like you said, you found it less detectable in Encens d’Angkor (which I've tried again but can't find it). Crassna Cha is still a pretty fresh distillation, which might be why you get that note (I only occasionally pick it up). I’m sure it'll disappear over time.
I guess there are many factors, but so far most of Ensar’s organics have actually not had that note. Have you tried Oud Yusuf? It’s also a fairly fresh distillation, but I don’t find any metallic/still notes in it at all. Samples I’ve tried from distillers directly have had the note more pronounced, and it’s probably because they normally send me samples of new distillations.
Even though the oil I am about to write about has not been released yet but I anticipate that it will be soon and I wanted to share with others my little observations on it. A disclosure from the start; the name of the oil is: "Ayoub" which is also my family name so when I heard about it during a conversation with Ensar I was naturally inclined to purchase it with the hope that it will be a nice match to my family name. I was not disappointed! Ayoub, truly renewed my faith in classical profile, artisnal Indian Oud Oil. This Oud is neither brash nor arrogant or loud. It has a dark Amber color that somehow looks embedded with energy. The smoothest of leather notes with bit of iodine greets you upon application. No over the top fecal notes or oily stale smells that one can encounter in the run of the mill grade oils is to be found here. There is no messing around here with floral notes or fruity stuff either, just honest to goodness Indian Oud in all its glory. This is the Oud of Old times. There is a unique note of cucumber that gives the oil an aquatic feel. It is an odd but alluring note. The oil however doesn't have projection which has both advantages and disadvantages. On one hand I wear this and I go to work and actually everyone around me seem to like it. I wouldn't dare do that say with Mostafa or Khidr. The other point is longevity; I have clocked anywhere from 2.5 hours to 4 hours with repeated use but not beyond. The dry down is a fabulous Oud burning notes on your skin with a slight acidity and brilliance. For me, this is a contemplation Oud that take me back to the banks of the river Nile around the sun set time with the peasants herding their animals back to the barns along the irrigation canals and the smell of smoldering hay being burned in the distant fields is mingling with the smoke of the water pipe laden with honey soaked Tobacco as one take a sip on mint tea and watch the boats sail by.
so when I heard about it during a conversation with Ensar I was naturally inclined to purchase it with the hope that it will be a nice match to my family name. I was not disappointed! Ayoub, truly renewed my faith in classical profile, artisnal Indian Oud Oil. This Oud is neither brash nor arrogant or loud. It has a dark Amber color that somehow looks embedded with energy. The smoothest of leather notes with bit of iodine greets you upon application. No over the top fecal notes or oily stale smells that one can encounter in the run of the mill grade oils is to be found here. There is no messing around here with floral notes or fruity stuff either, just honest to goodness Indian Oud in all its glory. This is the Oud of Old times. There is a unique note of cucumber that gives the oil an aquatic feel. It is an odd but alluring note. The oil however doesn't have projection which has both advantages and disadvantages. On one hand I wear this and I go to work and actually everyone around me seem to like it. I wouldn't dare do that say with Mostafa or Khidr. The other point is longevity; I have clocked anywhere from 2.5 hours to 4 hours with repeated use but not beyond. The dry down is a fabulous Oud burning notes on your skin with a slight acidity and brilliance. For me, this is a contemplation Oud that take me back to the banks of the river Nile around the sun set time with the peasants herding their animals back to the barns along the irrigation canals and the smell of smoldering hay being burned in the distant fields is mingling with the smoke of the water pipe laden with honey soaked Tobacco as one take a sip on mint tea and watch the boats sail by.I had initially thought of it as Nuh because how well mannered it is but they are really different once I swiped them side by side. In my mind, it is much closer to Assam. It has a very classical Indian Oud profile minus all the negative traits of a Hindi (over the top fecal/barnyard notes or stale plantation oily feel). it is truly a joy to behold.
I had posed this question on another Board but have not received a satisfactory answer and I thought maybe Thomas, Ensar or anyone with distillation experience can address it if they please. The question is: why is the Agarawood shavings are left to air and dry for few days or weeks before they are soaked prior to distillation? it seems counter intuitive. why can't they put the shaving straight into the soaking drums?
Thank you Ensar. What I have seen in your video was a clip where they put the large agarawood chunk and branches in the grinder and then the resultant grind was put out to dry; is it put in the grinder again after that for further grinding and that's what needs to be dry to be grounded proper. I am I understanding the process correctly?