Let's talk Oud: a detailed discourse on the various aspects of this substance we love

Adam

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#21
@ Taha, sure they told me the name, there were like 3 or 4 different species.
For sure it was not candana, they called it other names, but I don’t remember.

In Thailand things are very well. I am trying to focus on the farmed agarwood while here. You see in Thailand many do not trust wood from jungle, calling it “dirty”. Some times you even hear that hunters steal the woods from plantation ( many people have an incense grade farmed trees here) and sell it as wild.
Just recently I came back from Prachinburi, where Kao Yai mountains are located… What can I say… I been offered the wild wood suitable for an amazing oil for the price that is like 3 times more then 2 years ago… I was a bit disappointed and left empty handed…
 

Kruger

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#22
Taha, here's some encouragement for your upcoming expedition....

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The lighter colored one is Filipino (the black black one is Papuan), dating quite a few years back - obviously :)

You can do bicep training with these. Rock solid, sinking. They look inside just like they do outside. You'll get a good number of beads from these, so just imagine what they'd sell for. But they're not even being sold. The owner didn't even want to discuss the price: "These have no price, you know that!"

PS: Salaams, Adam! I recently shot a pic or two of Ensar holding a Malinau log you'd be drooling over..... will try to post them shortly.
 

Adam

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#23
wa alekum asalam wa rahmatullah Thomas,
haha, would love to see…
here is the one I finally got in Malinau…
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smashed, dusted, now soaking =)
 

Taha

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#24
Taha, here's some encouragement for your upcoming expedition....

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The lighter colored one is Filipino (the black black one is Papuan), dating quite a few years back - obviously :)

You can do bicep training with these. Rock solid, sinking. They look inside just like they do outside. You'll get a good number of beads from these, so just imagine what they'd sell for. But they're not even being sold. The owner didn't even want to discuss the price: "These have no price, you know that!"

PS: Salaams, Adam! I recently shot a pic or two of Ensar holding a Malinau log you'd be drooling over..... will try to post them shortly.
Oh my, those are beauties! I wouldn't mind a boomerang or two like those.

@Adam, did you end up paying a fair bit more for your log? I came across a lovely malinau piece earlier (March?) this year in Indonesia, but the price was insane. Typically genuine Malinau goes for 2x.. Seems it's even higher now.
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bhanny

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#25
Sorry if this takes this in the wrong direction fellas, but one thing I've been reading, probably on one or all of your sites, is how less than honorable people do things like paint, add metal shavings, glue, whatever to make these pieces of wood feel and look better. Is there something special you all do prior to buying wood like this. Don't divulge anything here you don't want to. Or is it something you just "know" after having done this for years. Does it just "feel" a certain way? How about the smell? Thomas, I assume you are whose emails I have grown a true love/hate relationship for (love to see something new, bank account, well..just kidding), that deep black Papuan, I feel I can almost smell that bad boy from here, can you tell a truly great piece from scent alone? Or at least get a good feel?

I guess I'm asking how do you guys decide, at the end of the day, whats going into the pot to cook? Or at least how you decide what is a good piece of wood, one worth investing? And no, I am a physician and father of 2 young boys in Richmond, Virginia USA. I have NO desire to make my own oils. I will GLADLY continue to invest in yours!
 

Adam

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#26
@ Taha…
thank God I found that piece the last day i was there…
freshly harvested from Malinau jungle…
was able to afford it… sure once the wood reach Jakarta or other places price double or tripple…
 

m.arif

Active Member
#27
Hi guys. I'm Arif, from Malaysia, new here, and I got on the forum as per Taha's recommendation, as he said that an interesting discussion was going on.

I met Taha a few times in the past month or so, to learn more about gaharu, and was I in for a surprise!

Taha started our first session with coffee. Selected beans roasted just right, with 20kg of force compressing the ground coffee beans, 9 bars of pressure , 70 celsius not more not less, and all this was probably an introduction on how common and artisanal coffee differ. Which Taha then mentions that artisanal Oud is similar in many aspects. (The coffee was good ! Very rich, sort of almost creamy without milk, and robust. Thanks Taha. But that's as far as my taste vocabulary and sensitivity can go. )

Then came the burn, which I had minimal capabilities to appreciate it fully. Different parts of the tree gives off a different aroma, and I agree, but wasn't really able to point out what the difference was.

Then, the oils, which hit me. "THIS, lives up to the gaharu fame that I've been hearing about".

The amount of information about gaharu Taha shared with me that day, was much more than I ever got from any vendor ever. Most dont even want to share , and many probably dont even know.

Too much falsehood in the industry..and most sellers just dont care to dig deep before selling gaharu.

I brought some specimens and the best one I got was a cambodi oil (probably thai cultivation wood) I bought 2 or 3 years back, and it was tweaked with cendana, as told by the seller (atleast he was honest).
 

m.arif

Active Member
#28
A malaysian plantation owner told me about how the oils are distilled from "kayu minyak" or "oil grade wood" which is mostly white bunk wood with some patches of oleoresin here and there. The resinated parts, are to be sold raw. People dont cook that part he says.

And guess what, only the resinated chips are actually calculated in their business budget. The white bunk wood made to oil is just a bonus income! So they dont care too much about artisanal or not. But the marketing for gaharu..they are all marketed as the rare and great minyak gaharu! Famed since ancient times...! And people treat all of them the same. Heck, most vendors cant even give a convincing explanation about the different grades (and VERY different prices).
 

m.arif

Active Member
#29
I brought one of the plantation owner's clean oils, and Taha was surprised that a local distiller made it. At the least it doesn't smell adulterated. But after a while the cendana started to emerge and we're back to square one. The adulteration could have happened at any stage, and the owner might not even know about it !
 

m.arif

Active Member
#30
When I smelled Taha's Yang Terang then directly smelled the clean oil, all the spunk was gone and I could barely smell anything, aside from the bunk wood aroma.

Interestingly, I tried out a sample of a claimed burmese Myitkyina aged super oil (catchy name) , quite Ok, not the clean type, it has depth at the beginning..then all that was left is the white bunk wood smell. I came to understand the quality of oils made from Kayu minyak compared to the artisanal stuff, and further understood why the price is so different.

You guys put a LOT of effort (and money) to get your raw materials, while most distillers use the leftovers. That it itself explains a lot.

Education and awareness is definitely needed on the consumer end especially. I'm a live testimonial for this.

2-3 years ago, I actually came across Ensar Oud, but couldn't comprehend the prices. Add to that, I didn't know who to ask, as those I can reach were only the vendors at the shops and streets, which know little to none about Oud.

It's really good to see oud artisans converging into discussion such as this. I hope to keep learning more from all the oud lovers here.

Thanks Taha for helping out with the registration to the forum. Hi Adam. If it were not for your recommendation I would not have met Taha. The oils I received the other day showed me how artisanal old school Thai oud smells like (in contrast with the kayu minyak stuff fermented to death with minimal attention to hygiene).
 

m.arif

Active Member
#31
Sorry for the chunk posts. I keep getting an error when I try to post the whole thing. " too many live links/images" bla bla bla. Does anyone know how I can solve this?
 

Ensar Oud

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#32
Sorry if this takes this in the wrong direction fellas, but one thing I've been reading, probably on one or all of your sites, is how less than honorable people do things like paint, add metal shavings, glue, whatever to make these pieces of wood feel and look better. Is there something special you all do prior to buying wood like this. Or is it something you just "know" after having done this for years. Does it just "feel" a certain way? How about the smell?... That deep black Papuan, I feel I can almost smell that bad boy from here, can you tell a truly great piece from scent alone? Or at least get a good feel?... I guess I'm asking how do you guys decide, at the end of the day, whats going into the pot to cook? Or at least how you decide what is a good piece of wood, one worth investing?
One thing to keep in mind is, the black 'boomerang' logs Thomas posted are not the type of wood that goes into the pots to make oil these days. Those two pieces belong to one of the China Market 'big bosses' and what he means when he says they're not for sale is that he doesn't want to bother quoting a price on them because he knows the price will be too high for anyone to afford them – i.e. in the hundreds of thousands of dollars per kilogram. That means hundreds of dollars per gram ($200 - $300). The Chinese collectors use such wood for carving, which makes it impossible in this day and age for folks like us to actually buy such wood and make oil from it.

Oil is made from other types of wood, such as the wood immediately surrounding the black logs, after it has been shaved off to expose the pieces you see in the pictures; incense grade wood that cannot be used to carve anything because it is too brittle, thin, or unsuitable for carving; and, of course, the 'oil grade' types of wood which are also getting harder and harder to procure with each passing day.

It is worthy of note that the grade of wood is not immediately and necessarily indicative of the quality of the fragrance that it will emit.

I was just shown a box full of the very highest grade Malinau wood – solid, 100% black, sparkling with resin crystals forearm-sized logs – but the scent coming from it was nothing worth writing home about. It was agonizing to see that wood bubble and sizzle on the coal almost unendingly, in the sickest way you can imagine, just oozing resin nonstop – while the scent left you wondering if there was anything wrong with the wood. Obviously there was nothing wrong, and this particular tree just had this smell. From a visuals perspective, you cannot find better wood. Honestly, if I had the $900,000 to spare that the 9 kg lot was going for, I wouldn't think twice about getting it. I predict this type of wood will eventually (sooner, rather than later) command the kyara prices of about ten years ago, even as kyara goes up into the thousands per gram.

As for glue, metal dust implants, etc, those are things you just get a haunch for over the years, and can immediately tell if the wood's been glued or tampered with in any way.
 

Taha

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#33
@m.arif, nice to see you here, welcome to the board!
Yes, the first time you saw Ensar's prices, you may have been surprised (especially when you can locally, i.e. at Bukit Bintang, get stuff for a fraction of the price). But I hope after our discussions during your visits, and after our analysis of the oils you presented, you can understand the cost for the real stuff. ;)

@bhanny, pretty much what Ensar said. And I'd like to add my thoughts to something he mentioned:
It is worthy of note that the grade of wood is not immediately and necessarily indicative of the quality of the fragrance that it will emit.
In recent times especially, I have observed this all too much.
Me personally, I am of the same opinion as old-school Khmer hunters: 'grandmother' generation trees usually yield superior aroma, compared to 'daughter' trees.
Grade (i.e. visual/quantitative grade), purely in and of itself, is not enough. A young tree that was heavily damaged (e.g. from bear clawing, elephant tusk mauling etc) can yield a very 'high grade' of wood, that can smell inferior to a grade of wood harvested from a grandmother-generation tree, several quantitative grades below. So qualitatively speaking (which typically the Japanese value the most), the lower grade wood is in fact superior to the higher grade wood.

Now, since I personally do wholesale and retail, even inferior high grade wood is of value. The Arab market wants black color, and the Chinese market wants thickness. We move kilos of wood every month, but good wood that is collected for distillation, ah now that is harder and harder to come by. Like Ensar illustrated, just because a batch of wood looks great doesn't mean the aroma will be great.

On a slight tangent (but related to this topic, nevertheless), I thought I'd give the latest update for the wood situation in peninsular Malaysia. Gaharu (Malaccensis) grandmother and mother trees are pretty much finished now. Hunters had already moved on to Candan Paya (ground-level Hirta) quite a while ago, done with that, moved to mid-altitude fuzzy-leaf Candan, done with that, and are currently harvesting mountain-top Candan. This variety of Candan admittedly does smell quite lovely, but the best you can get from this is 'baby' King Super grade, no full-blown King Super wood.

Also, incidentally, a lot of the seasoned hunters are retiring as well, right about now. I'm talking about the guys who knew the good stuff, from the good old days. One of those folks is my favorite Khmer former-hunter Sarit (the guy on the right, in the photo), who's served me well in Malaysia, Indonesia, and Thailand. Believe it or not, he's hitting 60 soon (doesn't look like it, does it?) due to arthritis in his knees.
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Aside from the ripening of their ages, they are also tired of hunts (like 2 recent hunts for me, one in Kelantan one in Johor) where they're in the jungle for 3 months, and hardly get anything to show for it.

Just think about that for a moment...
And now consider this: I am talking about Malaysia. This is the country with more wild agarwood than any other country in continental Asia. Can you imagine how bad it is in all those other countries?

Aside from the retiring of the best hunters (who know what the best trees are like), their disillusionment itself should be indication enough, as to what the state of affairs is right now.

Last year, I had (wrongly) made the prediction that there will be a surge in the availability of 'kayu minyak' grade wood, which will result in a plentitude of raw material for distillation for at least the coming 2-3 years. I was wrong because:
1) the hunters have to go in SO deep now to get to the good stuff (and even then, currently the chances of a successful harvest is about 15%), it is just plain silly to expect them to haul back kilos upon kilos of wood on their backs, out of the jungle. Take it from a guy who's carried a backpack with just some water, bananas, and a few snacks. It feels like you're carrying a truck on your back. Now imagine 10 times the weight.. maneuvering through vines, fallen trees, fleeing from wild animals... umm, no.
2) experienced hunters aren't bringing back incense-grade wood, let alone kayu minyak grade wood (bringing back wood for distillation has a far lower $-reward, thus less incentive).
3) the new generation of hunters have an indiscriminate 'chop down anything that looks like agarwood' mentality. Aside from the inferiority of the trees they harvest, they all just want to find Chinese King Super grade wood. They don't want to 'waste' time with any other grades.

What this all means is, things suddenly (and exponentially) went from sour to rotten. I am feeling the pinch years before I thought I would.
You can expect most 'wild' oud oils being produced to soon be just co-distillations of wild and cultivated, or even more likely just cultivated. Forget about good wild oud, I think pretty soon just genuinely-wild alone will be rare enough. But I also think that's not gonna stop fraudulent (and even honest but ignorant) sellers from peddling cultivated oils under the guise of wild. This is the case already, and it will only increase.

Since Ensar has been in the oud game since before the Chinese craze and the growing extinction problem, I'm sure he has many stories to share about how things have radically changed over the years.

Some may disagree with my bleak view, but keep in mind I operate right at the source itself, i.e. I have my fingers on the jungles' pulse...
So you can take it right from the horse's mouth, or believe the optimistic stories from folks far removed from the actual source.

On a brighter note,
Sarit's son Amab (you can see him carving away, in this video at 2:11) is very well-trained by his father. Like his father, he's like a blood hound that can follow the cookie crumb trail to grandmother generation trees. I'll be taking him with me on the next expedition, in a couple weeks. Let's hope he finds me a tree or two. :)
Unlike the new crowd, these guys get down on all fours and taste the dirt (to assess the soil composition), assess the tree externally for hours (the leaves, roots, bark etc, to ascertain harvest-worthiness), among many other fascinating practices. Most trees are rejected. I remember a couple years ago, when I brought Sarit and Nasirt over to West Borneo to train local hunters, and they got sooo mad because those two guys rejected about 9 'good' trees (good enough for others, but not them), before finally approving the 10th, and even that was half-heartedly. See here for more details and photos.
If more hunters from the new generation were like Amab (and like the older guys, who have mostly now retired), I think the crisis wouldn't have been as bad as it is now!
 

m.arif

Active Member
#34
@Taha I've definitely learned to appreciate the artisanal Oud oils now, plus understanding why the prices are as such :) I guess appreciation comes with knowledge, as the case for most other high valued treasures in this world. Give the most expensive piece of diamond to one without knowledge about it, at best he might comment "Wow. Very pretty", and that's it. That is usually the case when I let some friends smell the 'Real' oud as of late. But when you get someone who can appreciate it, they'll go crazy over it and keep smelling their wrist!

I bet your team of hunters must be unpopular among the other hunters Taha, considering their strict standards. Sometimes when I see pictures of vendors posting huge amounts of what looks to be high-grade wood online, I wonder about the harvesting ethics of their hunters, and how many trees were felled for that amount. Kinda scary..Such vendors don't seem to have any intention to educate and improve the gaharu industry. They just want to sell :(

@Ensar @Taha So back to the discussion about the quality of wood. Grade =/= quality of fragrance. So what constitutes Good or high quality aroma ? Would it be the complexity of the aromatic compounds (in such a case, can be measured to a certain extent) ? Or would it, at the end of the tunnel, be a subjective case? e.g. What smells great to one, might smell 'standard' to another. Or perhaps a bit of both?

Another question is about Kayu Minyak (Oil-grade wood). How much is it sought after in using it for artisanal Oud oils? Do artisanal distillers use incense-grade and nothing less? Or perhaps, kayu minyak IS used, but of a certain standard of quality (this would lead to kayu minyak having different sub-grades)? A point related to this discussion would be, the wood used for mass-produced oils. Visual examples would definitely help for comparison, if any.
 

bhanny

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#35
@Ensar @Taha. Thank you kind gentleman for the honest answers.

It is very interesting that the grade doesn't equate to quality of fragrance. Do you guys know what an oil will generally smell like when you smell the wood? Is it then you decided what you will cook it in, copper vs steel? How long and what you will soak it in? Do you let the wood tell you what you are going to do? Or do you exert your will on it a little, or a lot, to try to force certain qualities out of it?

I guess even a step further, I would guess many artists in various disciplines have an "idea" before they even have the materials to create their work. Do you guys have a dream or a sketch of a Chinese or a Vietnamese or a Borneo or a whatever in mind before even procuring the wood? About how you are going to do it, long before you have the materials?

And a little, no a lot depressing about the scarcity of the wood. Thankfully I have found you guys now and am doing my best to build a nice collection to last a long while, appreciate the work you all are doing now to provide these wonderful oils! And thankfully there are guys like Amab Taha, and no Sarit does not look 60. In my world I would say "who looks much younger than his stated age". Thanks for the link to the vid/pics too!
 

Ensar Oud

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#36
Grade (i.e. visual/quantitative grade), purely in and of itself, is not enough. A young tree that was heavily damaged (e.g. from bear clawing, elephant tusk mauling etc) can yield a very 'high grade' of wood, that can smell inferior to a grade of wood harvested from a grandmother-generation tree, several quantitative grades below. So qualitatively speaking (which typically the Japanese value the most), the lower grade wood is in fact superior to the higher grade wood.
So back to the discussion about the quality of wood. Grade =/= quality of fragrance. So what constitutes Good or high quality aroma ? Would it be the complexity of the aromatic compounds (in such a case, can be measured to a certain extent) ? Or would it, at the end of the tunnel, be a subjective case? e.g. What smells great to one, might smell 'standard' to another. Or perhaps a bit of both? Another question is about Kayu Minyak (Oil-grade wood). How much is it sought after in using it for artisanal Oud oils? Do artisanal distillers use incense-grade and nothing less? Or perhaps, kayu minyak IS used, but of a certain standard of quality (this would lead to kayu minyak having different sub-grades)? A point related to this discussion would be, the wood used for mass-produced oils. Visual examples would definitely help for comparison, if any.
I would find it strange how when visiting certain renowned Kodo masters in China, they'd always start the whole ceremony by taking out a white-looking trunk, whip out a knife, carve some 'oil grade' looking slivers from it, and put them on the low-heat kyara burners for us to experience the aroma. Indeed, the aroma would always be superior to what you'd typically get from super black, thickly resined chips that would go for exponentially more in the Arab market.... Some chips I was sent from a Japanese incense company looked so 'oil grade' I couldn't believe my eyes..... Yet the complexity and aromatic integrity of the scent, its sheer soul-stirring dynamic, was second to none. Looking back, we must've distilled I don't know how many logs that looked exactly like that! So I wonder how happy the Sifu would have been if we gave them to him instead of making oils out of them!... ;)

If you look at much of Kyara itself, a whole lot of it (especially when holding large logs) looks like oil grade wood.... Doesn't sink, doesn't clink like metal coins, it's just a soft textured, almost buttery sort of wood that to someone who doesn't know what it it, would in fact look much inferior to some 'double super' so-called China quality wood that goes for $100K. Again, the aromatic quality of the wood is quite distinct and different to the 'visual' aspect. Qualitative vs. quantitative, as Taha called it.

The Japanese, being into the olfactory experience afforded by agarwood, are not too concerned about how black it looks, whether you can carve anything from it, the size of the piece.... Give them an arm-length king super log, and they'd traditionally chop it up into little 1-cm pellets for you to heat on your low-heat burner. In the artisanal Oud sector, we are also more concerned with what the wood smells like, more so than what it looks like. Sure, you can 'market' an oil by showing people some good looking wood, grinding it up, and then cooking it. But the oil that they'll receive is, in the end, the 'pudding' that the proof must be in :)

With all of that said, it can get quite tricky as to what exactly constitutes 'incense grade'. The Sifu I mentioned would burn what looks like 'oil grade' wood yet it would emit the most incensey, most amazing scent. Other lots of super duper black boomerangs would have only a flat, and at times not even any 'aromatic' component to them.... Obviously, real 'incense grade' is that which emits the best scent when heated; because by definition, that's what 'incense' is.....

So to answer your question, m.arif: It all starts and ends with what you call 'kayu minyak'. If we don't use kayu minyak, there's no 'minyak' to be had, after all :D The oil contained in super black shavings can be super grade, though if those shavings don't smell fantastic when you heat them, most likely the oil won't smell that amazing either.
 

m.arif

Active Member
#37
Maashaa'Allaah. The discussion here is getting deeper and deeper. I'm learning more from this thread alone than many other online articles combined. Thanks @bhanny for initiating the question to our artisans about wood quality and grades. :)

@Ensar aha. You got a point there. The minyak is indeed the focus here. Anxiously excited:eek: to read more of what's coming
 

bhanny

Well-Known Member
#38
@m.arif Of course! How cool is it to have these fellas teach us? Thanks for furthering the discussion. Doesn't it make wearing their oils that much better?
 

Kruger

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#39
Awesome stuff, guys!

@Taha, a lot of new (and depressing) information to take in, but especially interesting is the point you brought up about people peddling cultivated oils under the guise of wild. That’s very worrying to hear and it’s something I have wondered about myself. On top of all the walnut oil mixing and all the cheating we keep hearing about, it sounds like it’s very easy for people to tell me that what I am getting is wild wood/oil, where in reality it’s far from it! Ensar has even written recently about how in places like Vietnam they bring in wood from other countries and sell it as Vietnamese!!! Have you or Adam found the same thing? Is it the same story in places like Cambodia and Thailand?

@Ensar, gee thanks, now my oud brain needs to be re-wired...... processing..... black = good = maybe not so good........ processing...... 30% complete..... processing :)

@bhanny & m.arif, my thoughts exactly!
 

Ensar Oud

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#40
What this all means is, things suddenly (and exponentially) went from sour to rotten. I am feeling the pinch years before I thought I would. You can expect most 'wild' oud oils being produced to soon be just co-distillations of wild and cultivated, or even more likely just cultivated. Forget about good wild oud, I think pretty soon just genuinely-wild alone will be rare enough. Since Ensar has been in the oud game since before the Chinese craze and the growing extinction problem, I'm sure he has many stories to share about how things have radically changed over the years.

Some may disagree with my bleak view, but keep in mind I operate right at the source itself, i.e. I have my fingers on the jungles' pulse... So you can take it right from the horse's mouth, or believe the optimistic stories from folks far removed from the actual source.
Thank you Taha for sharing that. I mentioned this exactly five years ago in this article, and I took some serious flak for it. Everyone thought I made up the story so I could create panic and trigger a surge in demand. The moderators of another forum literally banned me as a result of writing that article, one of them saying (and I quote), "Ensar put himself before the firing squad" (i.e. by announcing 'The End of Oud'). It was exactly five years ago that one of our main suppliers predicted there would only be about five years of wild oud left. And what you and Adam are reporting from Malaysia and Malinau are a sad corroboration of that prediction. I myself have stopped even looking for wild oud in the jungles, because I saw long ago that the effort is pointless.

In my experience, hunters don't even want to deal with someone looking for wood to make oil from. All they are looking for is Chinese customers that will pay exorbitant prices for even the paltriest kayu minyak (hoping someone will have the 'vision' that beads can be carved out of that also). It's just not a distiller's market anymore.

.....So, what happened after my 'heart attack' episode in Borneo that night of November 2013? Well, I met up with one of our suppliers who employs numerous hunters, and all he had to offer me was a 'minyak' grade trunk, solid and rather white looking, although it had some black patches on the inside. Countless phone calls the following days, meetings, consultations, and all I could find in the entire State of Sarawak was this one trunk which you see here:

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The flight back from Sarawak to Singapore was the only one in my life where we actually flew through a thunderstorm. The cabin crew were seated for a good 45 minutes after takeoff, and I could see lightning from my window, not too far off from us. I thought we were finished...... The hospital episode, then almost nothing to show for all my efforts and expenses getting there, then this nerve-racking flight through a thunderstorm..... I said, no more of this game for me. What made me more resolute to never venture on a wood hunt myself after that, was the fact that after all my efforts, the expenses, the nightmares, the stress – do you know what that handsome trunk yielded in terms of oil that we were able to distill from it? Take a look:

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I forget how many kilos that trunk was (10? 15?), but what we got from it was less than one gram of oil to show for all my efforts! I had to fly the thing right into Changi Airport and walk through customs with half a tree trunk sticking from either side of my suitcase, which I'd placed in front of it, hoping no one would ask me anything. Then the thing had to be flown into Thailand! Then driven for four and a half hours all the way to Trat.... Then distilled for over 10 days, expending effort and gas. Only to give us less than a gram of oil.... That's where I called it quits on trying to source the wood direct from the jungle, and calculated that it would be a lot more cost-efficient to just buy it from our long-time China Market colleagues (yes, at their insane mark-ups!) it would still be cheaper than venturing out myself. The risks, the effort, the expenses involved – and all a gamble, at the end of the day.....

True, the wood we get from our Chinese friends comes at considerable mark-ups from what we'd pay if we were working with hunters directly, however I calculated that if you take it upon yourself to go hunting and dealing with these people, you then have the added expense (not to mention headache... not to mention heartache!) of having to buy and resell all of their grades in one shot, most of which you won't be able to distill due to the sheer costs involved. And that's without taking into account the expense (and time and effort) of failed hunts, where you go and come back empty-handed, like I did in Sarawak.

More on our China Market friends later :)